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hemidup 12-19-2006 07:28 PM
Joe Racer, Does your stroker crankshaft now come with a toner ring?

Joe Racer 12-20-2006 03:37 AM
Originally Posted by hemidup
Joe Racer, Does your stroker crankshaft now come with a toner ring?
Actually, the cranks/rotating assemblies won't be available to purchase until January, but they will include the tone wheel.

hemidup 12-20-2006 08:48 PM
Russ talked with me at MMW in St. Louis. I was glad to here about his commitment with Callies and his new stroker package. We talked in great detail about the new strokers to come. I'm real comfortable with the 392 derived from a 6.1 block. It's the rod length to stroke ratio, plus the pancake sized piston and ring pack, that worries me about going to the 426. Same with taking the 5.7 to a 392. Just my .02

SRT10KLLR 12-26-2006 02:48 AM
Originally Posted by Steve - Race Eng
I attached a few more photos showing the machine work and a detailed shot of the MID sleeve flange and it's fitment into the block.

Bore size is 4.140" with a stroke length of 3.960" yielding 426 cubic inches.

The engine is running great, better than expected power output, no leaks, no problems at all. Thus far with conservative tune and only eight pounds of boost it is putting out close to 700 hp at the rear wheels. Car is being street driven to break in the engine. More boost will follow.

Steve
I thought it put down 635 RWHP at 8 psi. Either way those are some sweet numbers. I hope to beat that with my Turbocharged 6.8L(413 ci) Hemi.

hemidup 12-26-2006 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Joe Racer
Actually, the cranks/rotating assemblies won't be available to purchase until January, but they will include the tone wheel.
Any price's for us blue collar engine builders?

Beast 2 12-31-2006 05:32 PM
The 426 can be done without sleeves (we did it and Indy/Power Ported Performance did too). We have also taken the 5.7 to 392 and 370. We are looking to do a 383 as well. The rotating assembly for me 414 is getting balanced now and should be going in the truck soon!

It's good to see that more people are playing with the limits of the HEMI!

hemidup 12-31-2006 06:25 PM
Beast, I truely believe that without a sleeved 426, it's a short lived hurrah. Sonic check these blocks once, and you'll agree. Your 414 is about the limit we would build without sleeves. At $3700, is it worth the extra 12 cu in?

Beast 2 12-31-2006 06:32 PM
Stu handles all of that stuff!

We went with a 414 for mine due to the excessive amounts of nitrous we (I) plan to blow through it!

hemidup 12-31-2006 07:23 PM
Beast, Your 414 will be the ticket. I believe Stu went with a 6.200" rod length as well.

SRT10KLLR 12-31-2006 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by hemidup
Beast, I truely believe that without a sleeved 426, it's a short lived hurrah. Sonic check these blocks once, and you'll agree. Your 414 is about the limit we would build without sleeves. At $3700, is it worth the extra 12 cu in?
I too would rather have a sleeved 426. My engine builder would not overbore mine to make a 426 even if I paid him more to do so because he thought the walls were to thin to do so safely.


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